Message 2003-02-0012: Fwd: Re: New Dinosauricon Taxon Pages: _Therizinosauria_

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Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2003 18:33:02 -0800 (PST)
From: "Jaime A. Headden" <>
To: List PhyloCode <>
Subject: Fwd: Re: New Dinosauricon Taxon Pages: _Therizinosauria_

Forwarded from the DML with Luc Beilly's permission (Luc is not currently

--- Aspidel <> wrote:
>  Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 19:22:56 +0100
>  From: "Aspidel" <>
>  To: <>
>  Subject: Re: New Dinosauricon Taxon Pages: _Therizinosauria_
>  From: "Jaime A. Headden"
>  >   Lest we misunderstand, the practical method of this is for fossils,
>  not
>  > living species, which I wrote in the hinter end of the post.
>   For extant species, this method would be a mess: for example, plants,
>  you
>  have _Poa pratensis_, _Festuca pratensis_, _Cardamine pratensis_, and
>  the 2
>  first are grasses... :-(
>  >   For fossil taxa, the effect of species nomenclature would be far
>  less
>  > problematic,
>  Hmmm... You still have _Tyrannosaurus rex_, _Othnielia rex_,
>  _Velociraptor
>  mongoliensis_, _Saurornithoides mongoliensis_, _Oviraptor
>  mongoliensis_...
>  Why not to keep the binomial name, even if we consider the genus isn't
>  important? A case of "nomen conservandum" because people, even
>  scientists,
>  are used to.
>  BTW, in the definition of "species" in paleontology, there's another
>  problem. Hybrids (mostly sterile) are known in extant birds. Now let's
>  suppose 2 "real" species of _Caudipteryx_, I mean imagine them alive.
>  Let's
>  imagine hybrids occur, and now we've found a skeleton of what was a
>  hybrid.
>  Of course we don't know it was a hybrid. We'll probably describe and
>  name a
>  3rd species of _Caudipteryx_ intermediate between the 2 others, it's
>  logical.
>  Just my 2 cents.  Cheers - Aspidel.
>  ps: you can forward to the PhyloCode if it's worth doin'it.

Jaime A. Headden

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