Message 2003-02-0004: Fwd: Re: New Dinosauricon Taxon Pages: _Therizinosauria_

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Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 22:33:14 -0800 (PST)
From: "Jaime A. Headden" <qilongia@yahoo.com>
To: List PhyloCode <PhyloCode@ouvaxa.cats.ohiou.edu>
Subject: Fwd: Re: New Dinosauricon Taxon Pages: _Therizinosauria_

Here is my original post, sent in response to Keesey's post, which should
also be preserved within the quoted corner-brackets "< >" of the text
(ignoring those ">" preceeding each line of the forwarded text).

Message:

--- "Jaime A. Headden" <qilongia@yahoo.com> wrote:
>  Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 18:44:28 -0800 (PST)
>  From: "Jaime A. Headden" <qilongia@yahoo.com>
>  Subject: Re: New Dinosauricon Taxon Pages: _Therizinosauria_
>  To: dinosaur@usc.edu
>  CC: mightyodinn@yahoo.com
>
>  Mike Keesey (mightyodinn@yahoo.com) wrote:
>
>  <My point was that if you want species names to be binomina, you have to
>  either a) make them stick with their original generic name (so it would
>  remain _Ornithodesmus latidens_), or suffer impermanent species names.>
>
>    The binomen as offered is the species name, not the species name plus
>  some other name that can be changed. The binomen is now the label for
>  species, and it is the concept of the "genus" that is removed. The name
>  stays and is transfered to the species. It's been done before (Flynn et
>  al., JVP _20_), its hardly an alien and destructive force. The authors
  > refer to the whole complex (prefering n. tax.) as a single structure,
>  where plenty of nominative information can be contained in the binomen
>  _species_. Forget the genus-species complex. Its _species_ only. This is
>  the proposition. All species get their own "prima nomen", so that
>  *Tarbosaurus bataar*, however its related, is retained unless the
>  species
>  (*Tarbosaurus bataar*, not *bataar*) is synonymous with species of
>  another
>  taxon. Then the whole name is subsumed, prima nomen and secunda nomen
>  both. *Istiodactylus latidens*, if synonymous with *Ornithostoma
>  seeleyi*,
>  becomes *Ornithostoma seeleyi*.
>
>    *Ornithomimus minuts* does not belong to *Ornithomimus velox*, and so
>  the name can be altered so that it is shown to be identical ... or it is
>  synonymized with another taxon. If no species is synonymous in this
>  regard, each species is unique and the name follows suit.
>
>    I hope this is clear.
>
>    Cheers,
>
>  =====
>  Jaime A. Headden
>
>    Little steps are often the hardest to take.  We are too used to making
>  leaps in the face of adversity, that a simple skip is so hard to do..  We
>  should all learn to walk soft, walk small, see the world around us
>  rather than zoom by it.
>
>  "Innocent, unbiased observation is a myth." --- P.B. Medawar (1969)
>
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=====
Jaime A. Headden

   Little steps are often the hardest to take. 
We are too used to making leaps in the face of 
adversity, that a simple skip is so hard to do. 
We should all learn to walk soft, walk small, 
see the world around us rather than zoom by it.

"Innocent, unbiased observation is a myth." --- P.B. Medawar (1969)

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