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Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 20:06:08 -0400 (EDT)
From: "T. Mike Keesey" <tmk@dinosauricon.com>
To: -PhyloCode Mailing List- <phylocode@ouvaxa.cats.ohiou.edu>
Subject: Re: Subscribers
On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Scott Redhead wrote: > As some know, I wrote a commentary on the PhyloCode pointing out how > ridiculous it was to eliminate species PhyloCode doesn't eliminate species.... > Recently I was impressed by the paper *Disintegration of the > Scrophulariaceae* by Olmstead, DePamphilis, Wolke, Young, Elisons & > Reeves (Amer. J. Bot. 88: 348-361. 2001). What struck me as > imaginative was the melding of *PhyloCode* thinking with the > International Code of Botanical Nomenclature. Some of the ideas behind > the PhyloCode are quite good, but there seems to be no reason to have > another Code. Olmstead created the *new* family, Calceolariaceae (G. > Don) Raf. ex Olmstead, fam. et stat. nov. in a very traditional > manner, citing a basionym, Calceolarieae G. Don, fulfilling all > requirements for the ICBN. However, they defined the taxon as > follows, *Calceolariceae are the least inclusive clade that contains > Calceolaria pinata, Porodittia triandra, and Jovellana violacea.* > There was of course, a fuller discussion of characters. Discrepancies can arise between PhyloCode and the ICBN, though. Suppose Someone names families for the genera _Alpha_, _Beta_, and _Gamma_. They fulfill ICBN requirements *and* provide stem-based cladistic definition for _Alphaceae_ (_Alpha_ <-- _Beta_, _Gamma_), _Betaceae_ (_Beta_ <-- _Alpha_, _Gamma_), and _Gammaceae_ (_Gamma_ <-- _Alpha_, _Beta_). Then suppose a traditionalist discovers a new genus, _Delta_, for which they name a new family, _Deltaceae_, in accordance with ICBN rules. Suppose _Delta_ is within Clade _Alphaceae_. According to PhyloCode rules, _Delta_ will be an alphacean, but under the ICBN, it will be a deltacean! And, if _Deltaceae_ is ever cladistically defined, _Delta_ will belong to both clades, which is absolutely impossible under traditional taxonomy, since they are of the same rank. Furthermore, I don't know about the other codes, but the ICZN doesn't cover suprafamilial taxa *at all*, so there is a real need for some kind of code in this area. I agree that until PhyloCode goes into effect things should probably be done, as much as possible, in accord with the current codes. _____________________________________________________________________________ T. MICHAEL KEESEY Home Page <http://dinosauricon.com/keesey> The Dinosauricon <http://dinosauricon.com> personal <keesey@bigfoot.com> --> <tmk@dinosauricon.com> Dinosauricon-related <dinosaur@dinosauricon.com> AOL Instant Messenger <Ric Blayze> ICQ <77314901> Yahoo! Messenger <Mighty Odinn>