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Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 16:12:22 -0400 (EDT)
From: "T. Mike Keesey" <tmk@dinosauricon.com>
To: kinman@usa.net
Cc: phylocode@ouvaxa.cats.ohiou.edu
Subject: Re: Subscribers
On Tue, 1 May 2001 kinman@usa.net wrote: > I believe that we need to decrease the numbers of "formal" taxa, not > increase them. That is why I only recognized the basic higher ranks (kingdom, > phylum, class, order, family) with endings that render them more distinctive. Ken, you're rather a generalist, someone who has tried to attain a broad knowledge of taxonomy, and succeeded fairly well. Of *course* you're not going to want more taxa to be named -- how are you possibly going to keep up with everything? But to a specialist, having sufficient "space" to work in is critical. Even you should appreciate that we cannot discuss, e.g., avian origins if we only have Ordo Saurischia and Familia Dromaeosauridae. We need _Theropoda_, _Neotheropoda_, _Tetanurae_, _Neotetanurae/Avetheropoda_, _Coelurosauria_, _Maniraptoriformes_, _Maniraptora_, _Paraves_, and _Eumaniraptora_ as well. > When the traditional codes got into the business of formal intermediate > taxa, it opened a Pandora's box, and PhyloCode will only exacerbate the > problem of too many "formal" names. A less formal system of coding, informal > taxon names, and/or cladograms makes more sense to me for showing the proposed > relationships. Hopefully the goal is to make rigid and universal the usage of these currently "wishy-washy" higher taxa. Of course, I'm not sure that there have been many steps taken to assure that excessive taxa are not named. > Lophotrochozoa is a perfect example of a group which should NOT be > formally recognized. It is almost certainly a broadly paraphyletic group that > gave rise to the holophyletic Ecdysozoa grouping of phyla. They are simply > non-ecdysozoan bilateria, and the notion that they are the sister group to > ecdysozoans is going to be very difficult to dispel. If it's equivalent to _Bilateralia_, then it can be dismissed as a heterodefintional synonym. How is it cladistically defined? _____________________________________________________________________________ T. MICHAEL KEESEY Home Page <http://dinosauricon.com/keesey> The Dinosauricon <http://dinosauricon.com> personal <keesey@bigfoot.com> --> <tmk@dinosauricon.com> Dinosauricon-related <dinosaur@dinosauricon.com> AOL Instant Messenger <Ric Blayze> ICQ <77314901> Yahoo! Messenger <Mighty Odinn>