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Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 21:34:05 -0600 (MDT)
From: kinman@usa.net
To: phylocode@ouvaxa.cats.ohiou.edu
Subject: Re: [Re: Subscribers]
Mike, It may seem as though there is a relative "vacuum" for the names abov= e family level rank, but what is not commonly known is that official recommendations for higher ranks have been made (and ICBN mandates certai= n endings for ordinal taxa). The ICBN mandates that Order names shall end with the suffix -ales. = And although ICZN does not address ordinal level taxa, the Zoological Science= s Section of the American Association for the Advancement of Science has recommended that zoological orders be given the ending -ida (as has long = been done by the Treatise on Invertebrate Paleonotology). I follow both the botanical mandate and the zoological recommendation for invertebrates. = However, for chordate orders I use the -iformes ending since a majority o= f those orders (fish and birds) were already standardized with that ending.= There are no mandates for the names of classes, but again the Zoolog= ical Sciences Section of the AAAS recommends that the names of classes be give= n the standard ending -ea, which I follow. The ICBN recommends the -opsida end= ing for metaphytes and the -mycetes ending for eumycotans, which I have sligh= tly modified (by one letter) to -opsidea and -mycetea, so that all classes in= all kingdoms of organisms would have a common -ea suffix. At the phylum level, the zoological recommendation is that all shoul= d end with -a, which I follow, the botanists recommend -phyta and -mycota for metaphytes and eumycotans (which I also follow), and it has been proposed= that protist phyla be given the standardized ending -protista (which I gave as= alternate names after each of the traditional phylum names. Therefore, there is not a desparate need for PhyloCode for taxa at h= igher taxonomic levels. What is needed is for ICZN, ICBN, and BioCode to take decisive action instead of mere recommendations. Since PhyloCode seeks t= o abolish Linnean ranks, asking that it step in would obviously be a waste = of my time. I prefer to work within the established codes as far as possible, b= ut I would like to see PhyloCode modified in any way that will minimize confus= ion and conflict with those established codes. Therefore I support your suggestions for alternate names for taxa that have well-known paraphyleti= c usages (Osteichthyes, Reptilia, Synapsida, etc.). ------Ken Kinman = *************************************** "T. Mike Keesey" <tmk@dinosauricon.com> wrote: On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Scott Redhead wrote: > As some know, I wrote a commentary on the PhyloCode pointing out how > ridiculous it was to eliminate species PhyloCode doesn't eliminate species.... > Recently I was impressed by the paper *Disintegration of the > Scrophulariaceae* by Olmstead, DePamphilis, Wolke, Young, Elisons & > Reeves (Amer. J. Bot. 88: 348-361. 2001). What struck me as > imaginative was the melding of *PhyloCode* thinking with the > International Code of Botanical Nomenclature. Some of the ideas behind > the PhyloCode are quite good, but there seems to be no reason to have > another Code. Olmstead created the *new* family, Calceolariaceae (G. > Don) Raf. ex Olmstead, fam. et stat. nov. in a very traditional > manner, citing a basionym, Calceolarieae G. Don, fulfilling all > requirements for the ICBN. However, they defined the taxon as > follows, *Calceolariceae are the least inclusive clade that contains > Calceolaria pinata, Porodittia triandra, and Jovellana violacea.* > There was of course, a fuller discussion of characters. Discrepancies can arise between PhyloCode and the ICBN, though. Suppose Someone names families for the genera _Alpha_, _Beta_, and _Gamma_. They fulfill ICBN requirements *and* provide stem-based cladistic definition for _Alphaceae_ (_Alpha_ <-- _Beta_, _Gamma_), _Betaceae_ (_Beta_ <-- _Alpha_, _Gamma_), and _Gammaceae_ (_Gamma_ <-- _Alpha_, _Beta_). Then suppose a traditionalist discovers a new genus, _Delta_, for which they name a new family, _Deltaceae_, in accordance with ICBN rules. Suppose _Delta_ is within Clade _Alphaceae_. According to PhyloCode rules= , _Delta_ will be an alphacean, but under the ICBN, it will be a deltacean!= And, if _Deltaceae_ is ever cladistically defined, _Delta_ will belong to= both clades, which is absolutely impossible under traditional taxonomy, since they are of the same rank. Furthermore, I don't know about the other codes, but the ICZN doesn't cover suprafamilial taxa *at all*, so there is a real need for some kind of code in this area. I agree that until PhyloCode goes into effect things should probably be done, as much as possible, in accord with the current codes. _________________________________________________________________________= ____ T. MICHAEL KEESEY Home Page <http://dinosauricon.com/keesey> The Dinosauricon <http://dinosauricon.com> personal <keesey@bigfoot.com> --> <tmk@dinosauricon.com= > Dinosauricon-related <dinosaur@dinosauricon.com> AOL Instant Messenger <Ric Blayze> ICQ <77314901> Yahoo! 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