Message 2005-12-0082: Re: PhyloCode: Re: Sereno05

Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:01:14 +0000

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Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:01:14 +0000
From: [unknown]
Subject: Re: PhyloCode: Re: Sereno05

Though the concept of species is not being recognized by all one can =
develop a wider grouping and call it species for the purpose of evolu=
tion just as in physics the word velocity differs from common usage m=
eaning instead a change in position too.=20
Yisrael Asper
Pittsburgh PA

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
> I was just proposing an idea for PhyloCode. Now I thanks to your em=
ail think=20
> that PhyloCode should just try to be compatible with any species de=
finition as=20
> you can't I see get everyone on the same bandwagon anyhow. Some jus=
t will not=20
> accept the definition of a species given by another. Species should=
 be something=20
> that is outside of PhyloCode technically and if you have a definiti=
on of a=20
> species and you want to make it compatible with Phylocode you shoul=
d have rules=20
> for your definition and so should others. At worst you would have m=
ore names for=20
> the same thing.
> Yisrael Asper
> Pittsburgh PA
> > > --- Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht ---
> > > Von:
> >=20
> > > So why not have for PhyloCode a species defined as a partial cl=
> > > that's made up of all the members and descendents of an immedia=
> > > branch of what would be called by NonPhyloCode usage a Genus ex=
> > > any descendents who are not members of the Genus. So for exampl=
e Homo
> > > is a Genus under NonPhyloCode usage and its immediate branches =
> > > be defined as the various Species of Humans for PhyloCode.
> >=20
> > I disagree. Firstly, it would mean that ancestors of a species co=
uld never=20
> > belong to a species themselves; this is against all current usage=
> > Secondly, it would make the PhyloCode dependent on the other code=
s to tell=20
> > what a genus is -- and remember that one worker's genus is anothe=
> > subgenus and yet another's tribe or subtribe! Thirdly, it would o=
nly add=20
> > yet another species concept to the existing... 25? 40?
> >=20
> > Oh, and the example isn't good. Your proposal would probably mean=
 the end=20
> > of *Homo erectus* and maybe several more of the currently recogni=
zed, erm,=20
> > er, morphospecies.
> >=20
> > --=20
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