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Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:01:14 +0000
From: [unknown]
To: phylocode@ouvaxa.cats.ohiou.edu
Subject: Re: PhyloCode: Re: Sereno05
Though the concept of species is not being recognized by all one can = develop a wider grouping and call it species for the purpose of evolu= tion just as in physics the word velocity differs from common usage m= eaning instead a change in position too.=20 Yisrael Asper yisraelasper@comcast.net Pittsburgh PA -------------- Original message ---------------------- =46rom: yisraelasper@comcast.net > I was just proposing an idea for PhyloCode. Now I thanks to your em= ail think=20 > that PhyloCode should just try to be compatible with any species de= finition as=20 > you can't I see get everyone on the same bandwagon anyhow. Some jus= t will not=20 > accept the definition of a species given by another. Species should= be something=20 > that is outside of PhyloCode technically and if you have a definiti= on of a=20 > species and you want to make it compatible with Phylocode you shoul= d have rules=20 > for your definition and so should others. At worst you would have m= ore names for=20 > the same thing. > Yisrael Asper > yisraelasper@comcast.net > Pittsburgh PA >=20 >=20 > > > --- Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht --- > > > Von: yisraelasper@comcast.net > >=20 > > > So why not have for PhyloCode a species defined as a partial cl= ade > > > that's made up of all the members and descendents of an immedia= te > > > branch of what would be called by NonPhyloCode usage a Genus ex= cluding > > > any descendents who are not members of the Genus. So for exampl= e Homo > > > is a Genus under NonPhyloCode usage and its immediate branches = would > > > be defined as the various Species of Humans for PhyloCode. > >=20 > > I disagree. Firstly, it would mean that ancestors of a species co= uld never=20 > > belong to a species themselves; this is against all current usage= .=20 > > Secondly, it would make the PhyloCode dependent on the other code= s to tell=20 > > what a genus is -- and remember that one worker's genus is anothe= r's=20 > > subgenus and yet another's tribe or subtribe! Thirdly, it would o= nly add=20 > > yet another species concept to the existing... 25? 40? > >=20 > > Oh, and the example isn't good. Your proposal would probably mean= the end=20 > > of *Homo erectus* and maybe several more of the currently recogni= zed, erm,=20 > > er, morphospecies. > >=20 > > --=20 > > 10 GB Mailbox, 100 FreeSMS/Monat http://www.gmx.net/de/go/topmail > > +++ GMX - die erste Adresse f=FCr Mail, Message, More +++