Message 2005-12-0081: Re: PhyloCode: Re: Sereno05

Wed, 07 Dec 2005 01:32:38 +0000

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Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2005 01:32:38 +0000
From: [unknown]
To: phylocode@ouvaxa.cats.ohiou.edu
Subject: Re: PhyloCode: Re: Sereno05

I was just proposing an idea for PhyloCode. Now I thanks to your emai=
l think that PhyloCode should just try to be compatible with any spec=
ies definition as you can't I see get everyone on the same bandwagon =
anyhow. Some just will not accept the definition of a species given b=
y another. Species should be something that is outside of PhyloCode t=
echnically and if you have a definition of a species and you want to =
make it compatible with Phylocode you should have rules for your defi=
nition and so should others. At worst you would have more names for t=
he same thing.
Yisrael Asper
yisraelasper@comcast.net
Pittsburgh PA


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>=20
> > So why not have for PhyloCode a species defined as a partial clad=
e
> > that's made up of all the members and descendents of an immediate
> > branch of what would be called by NonPhyloCode usage a Genus excl=
uding
> > any descendents who are not members of the Genus. So for example =
Homo
> > is a Genus under NonPhyloCode usage and its immediate branches wo=
uld
> > be defined as the various Species of Humans for PhyloCode.
>=20
> I disagree. Firstly, it would mean that ancestors of a species coul=
d never=20
> belong to a species themselves; this is against all current usage.=
=20
> Secondly, it would make the PhyloCode dependent on the other codes =
to tell=20
> what a genus is -- and remember that one worker's genus is another'=
s=20
> subgenus and yet another's tribe or subtribe! Thirdly, it would onl=
y add=20
> yet another species concept to the existing... 25? 40?
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> Oh, and the example isn't good. Your proposal would probably mean t=
he end=20
> of *Homo erectus* and maybe several more of the currently recognize=
d, erm,=20
> er, morphospecies.
>=20
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