Message 2005-05-0034: RE:PhyloCode

Wed, 16 Mar 2005 19:12:42 -0500

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Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 19:12:42 -0500
From: [unknown]
To: phylocode@ouvaxa.cats.ohiou.edu
Subject: RE:PhyloCode

 > Are there some proposals to eliminate species as a category in
 > PhyloCode
> >
> > Yes. I guess they won't have much success anytime soon, though.
> >
> thus generalizing even more living beings?
> >
> > How do you mean? It is no problem to name clades that are the siz=
e of
> > species or even smaller.

I forgot to answer this point. If species is dropped then beings whic=
h
diverge from their species could be included.
Yisrael
----- Original Message -----
=46rom: "Yisrael Asper" <yisraelasper@comcast.net>
To: <phylocode@ouvaxa.cats.ohiou.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: PhyloCode


> I am not saying for sure the Linnaean system will evaporate even ce=
rtainly
> not without a fight but I do see that if and it could be fast since=
 I have
> seen remarkably quickly radical scientific ideas become accepted as=
 the
> consensus nowadays, PhyloCode becomes accepted and it would not sho=
ck me
if
> it does then the ISPN will be its official representative and it's
> definitions if not its soundness always will be accepted by the sci=
entific
> community. A parallel is with the IAU in the Astronomical community=
 which
> has like it or not the final word on what is what in the heavens. W=
e can
> argue that the asteroid Ceres is a planet for instance but unless t=
he IAU
> were to say that then it's just us talking. For the record I don't =
want
> Ceres being declared a planet. Why? because it's a part of a belt n=
amely
the
> Asteroid Belt. As for PhyloCode I would not be the least bit surpri=
sed if
in
> ten years or less it is accepted.
>
> Yisrael
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: "David Marjanovic" <david.marjanovic@gmx.at>
> To: "PML" <phylocode@ouvaxa.cats.ohiou.edu>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 6:00 PM
> Subject: Re: PhyloCode
>
>
> > > If PhyloCode becomes adopted then the ISPN would be able to exe=
rt so
> much
> > > influence on all dictionary publishers in the world since when =
it
comes
> to
> > > the scientific definitions they would be dependent on the offic=
ial
> > > pronouncements of the scientific community and either accept or=
 reject
> > > them
> > > as being in usage but they could not invent their own.
> >
> > Do you expect that on January 1, 200n, the Linnaean system will
> immediately
> > evaporate, without a fight? I _hope_ that by then more _professio=
nal
> > systematic biologists_ will have _heard_ of PN than not. I do thi=
nk you
> will
> > be right -- in (n + 20). Or perhaps as soon as in (n + 10), but t=
hat
must
> be
> > doubted.
>

  

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