Message 2005-05-0029: PhyloCode

Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:59:20 -0500

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Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:59:20 -0500
From: [unknown]
To: phylocode@ouvaxa.cats.ohiou.edu
Subject: PhyloCode

Sorry to the online dictionary. I meant to say an online dictionary s=
aid a
planet is larger than asteroids.
Yisrael
----- Original Message -----
=46rom: "Yisrael Asper" <yisraelasper@comcast.net>
To: <phylocode@ouvaxa.cats.ohiou.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 4:55 PM
Subject: PhyloCode


> Thank you for your response. If you codify scientific jargon so tha=
t you
are
> insistent that a particular wording should be the official scientif=
ic
> definition it will influence the dictionaries automatically. Dictio=
naries
> are not perfect. They will however be smart enough to notice with t=
he
> scientific community insistent on a particular authorized wording a=
s the
> official scientific definition to note that there will sometimes th=
ough by
> no means always be a discrepancy between common usage and less comm=
on
usage.
> Like asking for milk and getting camel's milk when you asked for mi=
lk.
Even
> though both are milk still the more general and scientific definiti=
on is
not
> one commonly meant among English speakers. So again I say to have i=
t be
that
> the official PhyloCode organization insist that the wording in
Dictionaries
> wherever the Thanksgiving Day clause applies should state that the
> definition includes all of the descendents. If you do that the publ=
ic can
be
> won over. Are there some proposals to eliminate species as a catego=
ry in
> PhyloCode thus generalizing even more living beings? As far as T Re=
x I was
> noticing for the first time that I cannot combine every word's lett=
ers
since
> Trex would not sound like T Rex unlike the word e mail which can be
written
> as email.
>
> Yisrael
>
>
> P.S. An example of a definition which has to be taken with a grain =
of salt
I
> discovered just today where an online dictionary said a planet is s=
maller
> than asteroids. In our solar system perhaps not true, more so not t=
o be
> assumed in others perhaps.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Marjanovic" <david.marjanovic@gmx.at>
> To: "PML" <phylocode@ouvaxa.cats.ohiou.edu>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 1:55 PM
> Subject: Re: PhyloCode
>
>
> > >I have a new proposal that perhaps everyone can agree with. To h=
ave it
be
> > > that the official PhyloCode organization insist that the wordin=
g in
> > > Dictionaries wherever the Thanksgiving Day clause applies shoul=
d state
> > > that
> > > the definition includes all of the descendents. If this is done=
 the
> > > Thanksgiving day clause's objective will be fulfilled. What do =
you
say?
> >
> > I don't think we could have much of an influence on dictionaries.
> Scientific
> > jargon is scientific jargon, and the English language is the Engl=
ish
> > language. We're not trying to change the English or any other lan=
guage,
> > we're trying to codify scientific jargon.
> >
> > >> a T Rex (I can't say Trex I see as it wouldn't be understood. =
So much
> for
> > >> heresy with this),
> >
> > I don't understand. Do you mean the spelling (which is *T. rex*, =
in
> italics
> > instead of with asterisks)?
> >
> > >> P.S. Humans are Homo Sapiens Sapiens.
> >
> > *Homo sapiens sapiens*.
> >
> > >> What is PhyloCode going to do with that?
> >
> > Probably this will stay as it is, with the difference that *Homo*=
 won't
be
> a
> > genus anymore. However, the rules for species names -- as opposed=
 to
clade
> > names -- are being written right now. Currently some 15 different
> proposals
> > exist. We'll see...

  

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