Message 2005-05-0028: PhyloCode

Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:55:02 -0500

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Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:55:02 -0500
From: [unknown]
To: phylocode@ouvaxa.cats.ohiou.edu
Subject: PhyloCode

Thank you for your response. If you codify scientific jargon so that =
you are
insistent that a particular wording should be the official scientific
definition it will influence the dictionaries automatically. Dictiona=
ries
are not perfect. They will however be smart enough to notice with the
scientific community insistent on a particular authorized wording as =
the
official scientific definition to note that there will sometimes thou=
gh by
no means always be a discrepancy between common usage and less common=
 usage.
Like asking for milk and getting camel's milk when you asked for milk=
. Even
though both are milk still the more general and scientific definition=
 is not
one commonly meant among English speakers. So again I say to have it =
be that
the official PhyloCode organization insist that the wording in Dictio=
naries
wherever the Thanksgiving Day clause applies should state that the
definition includes all of the descendents. If you do that the public=
 can be
won over. Are there some proposals to eliminate species as a category=
 in
PhyloCode thus generalizing even more living beings? As far as T Rex =
I was
noticing for the first time that I cannot combine every word's letter=
s since
Trex would not sound like T Rex unlike the word e mail which can be w=
ritten
as email.

Yisrael


P.S. An example of a definition which has to be taken with a grain of=
 salt I
discovered just today where an online dictionary said a planet is sma=
ller
than asteroids. In our solar system perhaps not true, more so not to =
be
assumed in others perhaps.
----- Original Message -----
=46rom: "David Marjanovic" <david.marjanovic@gmx.at>
To: "PML" <phylocode@ouvaxa.cats.ohiou.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: PhyloCode


> >I have a new proposal that perhaps everyone can agree with. To hav=
e it be
> > that the official PhyloCode organization insist that the wording =
in
> > Dictionaries wherever the Thanksgiving Day clause applies should =
state
> > that
> > the definition includes all of the descendents. If this is done t=
he
> > Thanksgiving day clause's objective will be fulfilled. What do yo=
u say?
>
> I don't think we could have much of an influence on dictionaries.
Scientific
> jargon is scientific jargon, and the English language is the Englis=
h
> language. We're not trying to change the English or any other langu=
age,
> we're trying to codify scientific jargon.
>
> >> a T Rex (I can't say Trex I see as it wouldn't be understood. So=
 much
for
> >> heresy with this),
>
> I don't understand. Do you mean the spelling (which is *T. rex*, in
italics
> instead of with asterisks)?
>
> >> P.S. Humans are Homo Sapiens Sapiens.
>
> *Homo sapiens sapiens*.
>
> >> What is PhyloCode going to do with that?
>
> Probably this will stay as it is, with the difference that *Homo* w=
on't be
a
> genus anymore. However, the rules for species names -- as opposed t=
o clade
> names -- are being written right now. Currently some 15 different
proposals
> exist. We'll see...

  

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