Message 2002-01-0011: Re: remaining jobs before implementation of PhyloCode

Thu, 24 Jan 2002 00:26:37 -0500 (EST)

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Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 00:26:37 -0500 (EST)
From: "T. Mike Keesey" <tmk@dinosauricon.com>
To: "Jonathan R. Wagner" <jonathan.r.wagner@mail.utexas.edu>
Cc: -PhyloCode Mailing List- <PhyloCode@ouvaxa.cats.ohiou.edu>
Subject: Re: remaining jobs before implementation of PhyloCode

On Wed, 23 Jan 2002, Jonathan R. Wagner wrote:

>     For what it is worth, perhaps Biota should to the crown clade of life on
> earth, in keeping with other crown definitions.

How would this be formulated for PhyloCode specs? What would the specific
anchors be?

> The corresponding total
> group (however it might possibly be defined... _Homo sapiens_ > smectite?)

Heh heh .. how about an apomorphic definition? Clade("life" in _Homo
sapiens_)?

I do like the idea of our species as a specifier for some of these higher
clades. After all, it *is* the most-researched species in our literature.
Or is there a reason for nominating something else?

> could be termed Innominata, or Panbiota, or any one of a number of clever
> names.

Have these been used somehwere?

> To continue being clever, Eubacteria and Archaea certainly are clades
> if we chose to associate these names with explicit, unrestricted
> phylogenetic definitions. :)

:P
Yeah, but how certain is it they'd correspond to customary content? (I
really know nothing about this area....)

>     On the other hand, is it really productive, at this stage and in this
> forum, to discuss definitions of established taxon names?

Only one way to find out....

Seriously, there hasn't been any discussion at all here for over a month.
This is a *huge* project. It should be getting more attention! Let's
discuss *something*. If not now, when?

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