Message 2005-12-0084: Re: PhyloCode: Re: Sereno05

Sun, 18 Dec 2005 05:20:02 +0000

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Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 05:20:02 +0000
From: [unknown]
To: phylocode@ouvaxa.cats.ohiou.edu
Subject: Re: PhyloCode: Re: Sereno05

>=20
> > I was just proposing an idea for PhyloCode. Now I thanks to your =
email
> > think that PhyloCode should just try to be compatible with any sp=
ecies
> > definition as you can't I see get everyone on the same bandwagon =
anyhow.
> > Some just will not accept the definition of a species given by an=
other.
> > Species should be something that is outside of PhyloCode technica=
lly
> > and if you have a definition of a species and you want to make it
> > compatible with Phylocode you should have rules for your definiti=
on and
> > so should others. At worst you would have more names for the same=
 thing.

This would allow some creatures to be labeled still a member of a spe=
cies under Evolution but not in ordinary language just as I noticed t=
hat spiders are not labeled insects in scientific usage but they sure=
 are in ordinary usage. I see even in scientific usage the ambiguity =
that the term species undergoes to begin with as when a subspecies is=
 discovered so what was previously labeled a species could now be lab=
eled a subspecies thus mixing up the family tree.

Yisrael Asper
yisraelasper@comcast.net
Pittsburgh PA
 -------------- Original message ----------------------
=46rom: David Marjanovic <david.marjanovic@gmx.at>
> I agree on both:
>=20
> > Though the concept of species is not being recognized by all one =
can
> > develop a wider grouping and call it species for the purpose of
> > evolution
>=20
> Or ecology. Or whatever.
>=20
> > just as in physics the word velocity differs from common
> > usage meaning instead a change in position too.=20
>=20
> > I was just proposing an idea for PhyloCode. Now I thanks to your =
email
> > think that PhyloCode should just try to be compatible with any sp=
ecies
> > definition as you can't I see get everyone on the same bandwagon =
anyhow.
> > Some just will not accept the definition of a species given by an=
other.
> > Species should be something that is outside of PhyloCode technica=
lly
> > and if you have a definition of a species and you want to make it
> > compatible with Phylocode you should have rules for your definiti=
on and
> > so should others. At worst you would have more names for the same=
 thing.
>=20
> --=20
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