Message 2005-12-0072: Re: PhyloCode: Re: PhyloCode Taxonomic Classifications

Tue, 29 Nov 2005 09:49:44 -0500

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Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 09:49:44 -0500
From: [unknown]
To: yisraelasper@comcast.net, phylocode@ouvaxa.cats.ohiou.edu
Subject: Re: PhyloCode: Re: PhyloCode Taxonomic Classifications

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    <DIV>    Yisrael Asper

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    <DIV>    &gt;My goodness&#33; Welcome to the 21st. century&#33;

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    <DIV>    &gt;Yisrael Asper

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    <DIV>    &gt;&gt;&gt;If PhyloCode wins it will take over the voca=
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    <DIV>    &gt;&gt;&#40;However&#44; the PhyloCode makes it possibl=
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to use species if you think

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    <DIV>    &gt;&gt;they don&#39;t exist. Some people think so.&#41;

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