Message 2005-06-0005: Re: species under PhyloCode

Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:51:05 -0400

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Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:51:05 -0400
From: Kevin de Queiroz <Dequeiroz.Kevin@NMNH.SI.EDU>
To: david.marjanovic@gmx.at, phylocode@ouvaxa.cats.ohiou.edu
Subject: Re: species under PhyloCode

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As one of the people who is supposed to be preparing the species part of the
PhyloCode, I can say that our goal is to formulate rules about the names of
species that are not tied to any particular species concept but are
compatible with as many of them as possible. 
 
>>>David Marjanovic <david.marjanovic@gmx.at> 06/24 4:25 pm >>> 
 
>How will a species under PhyloCode be defined. 
 
 
I have already answered to this, haven't I? The PhyloCode itself doesn't 
 
even mention species -- it is the body of rules for the regulation of clade 
 
names and only clade names. A body of rules for the naming of species that 
 
is compatible with the PhyloCode is currently in preparation, and I have no 
 
idea if it will prefer any particular species concept(s); however, 
 
phylogenetic nomenclature does not require species -- the PhyloCode can 
 
stand alone. 
 
 
>If humans and Chimpanzees for instance could produce offspring would they 
 
>be labeled as one species under PhyloCode? Under the most limited 
 
>definition of a species it is a group of similar looking organisms that 
 
>usually mate or form a single culture if their is asexual reproduction for 
 
>this group. 
 
 
There are currently at least 25 different species concepts. What you write 
 
above is just a vague mixture of 3 of them. 

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    <DIV>    &gt;&gt;&gt;David Marjanovic &lt;david.marjanovic@gmx.at&gt; =
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    <DIV>    &gt;How will a species under PhyloCode be defined.

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    <DIV>    I have already answered to this&#44; haven&#39;t I&#63; The =
PhyloCode itself doesn&#39;t

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    <DIV>    even mention species -- it is the body of rules for the =
regulation of clade

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    <DIV>    names and only clade names. A body of rules for the naming of =
species that

    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>    is compatible with the PhyloCode is currently in preparation&#=
44; and I have no

    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>    idea if it will prefer any particular species concept&#40;s&#4=
1;&#59; however&#44;

    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>    phylogenetic nomenclature does not require species -- the =
PhyloCode can

    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>    stand alone.

    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>    &gt;If humans and Chimpanzees for instance could produce =
offspring would they

    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>    &gt;be labeled as one species under PhyloCode&#63; Under the =
most limited

    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>    &gt;definition of a species it is a group of similar looking =
organisms that

    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>    &gt;usually mate or form a single culture if their is asexual =
reproduction for

    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>    &gt;this group.

    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>    There are currently at least 25 different species concepts. =
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