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Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 13:54:04 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Fwd: PROPOSED ARTICLE X - autonyms
--- Philip Cantino <cantino@ohiou.edu> wrote: > >But why would you need _Panangiospermae_ as a taxon when _Pan-Angi= ospermae_ > >would already exist? >=20 > Pan-Angiospermae is an autonym. Shouldn't major panstem clades als= o=20 > have a formal name? I guess the question would be whether or not autonyms were considered= formal names. I assumed they would be, although with a somewhat different st= atus than, err ... what would we call the rest of them, anyway? The only reason we'd need a separate name for the total clade in the = case of _Synapsida_ and _Pan-Mammalia_ is for continuity. The total clade has= already been given a name (two, actually: _Synapsida_ and _Theropsida_). On t= he other hand, the total clade of _Angiospermae_ (assuming it is made a crown = clade) has never been given a name, to my knowledge, so there is no need to set = up a clade synonymous with the autonym. > Yes, you're right. I didn't express this very well. What I meant = is=20 > would the subsequent user of names (for example in selecting a=20 > classification to use in a text) have the right to choose between t= he=20 > combination of Synapsida and Corona-Synapsida versus Pan-Mammalia a= nd=20 > Mammalia? I assume the answer is yes, but I just wanted to make su= re. I see. That is a good question. Perhaps it warrants a Note? It also seems that you could use _Synapsida_ and _Mammalia_, but usin= g _Pan-Mammalia_ and _Corono-Synapsida_ would be pointless. That is, us= ing an autonym without using the clade it's based on should be ruled against= . =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D> T. Michael Keesey <http://dino.lm.com/contact> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D> The Dinosauricon <http://dinosauricon.com> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D> Instant Messenger <Ric Blayze> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =09=09 _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com