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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 21:19:11 +0200
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To: PML <phylocode@ouvaxa.cats.ohiou.edu>
Subject: Re: Apomorphy-based clades; was Re: Panstems
> Umm... both Wolsan and I have come up with ways to name BOTH > the crown and the total groups of all life without using apomorphie= s. Sorry, that's true. My thinking had come full circle; I had started w= ith your definition that starts with "the first ancestor of *Homo sapiens= *", then noticed that "ancestor" implies it's alive, then forgot that, th= en Mike came with a definition that mentioned an ancestor again, and... :-] > Wolsan's are arguably better. Well. "Most inclusive clade" doesn't mention an ancestor, but it stil= l implies one. The question "where does the clade start" doesn't go awa= y.