Message 2004-02-0023: Re: RE: a comment on ancestor

Tue, 10 Feb 2004 09:55:33 -0500

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Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 09:55:33 -0500
From: de Queiroz Kevin <Dequeiroz.Kevin@NMNH.SI.EDU>
To: phylocode@ouvaxa.cats.ohiou.edu, igor_pavlinov@zmmu.msu.ru
Subject: Re: RE: a comment on ancestor

The application of names to different sets of organisms/species in the
context of different phylogenetic (or, in general, taxonomic) hypotheses
occurs both in phylogenetic and in traditional nomenclature.  So
phylogenetic nomenclature is similar to traditional nomenclature in this
respect.  Moreover, several authors have argued that this sort of
instability is not only necessary but desirable.   Stability of nomenclature
that results from stability of taxonomic hypotheses means that our views
about relationships are no longer changing.  The stagnation implied by this
state of affairs (assuming that we will never know everything about
phylogeny) has lead some authors to adopt the slogan "stability is
ignorance."

Kevin

Kevin de Queiroz
Division of Amphibians & Reptiles
Smithsonian Institution
P.O. Box 37012
NHB, Room W203, MRC 162
Washington, D.C. 20013-7012
Voice:  202-357-2212
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E-mail:  dequeiroz.kevin@nmnh.si.edu

>>> "Igor Ya. Pavlinov" <igor_pavlinov@zmmu.msu.ru> - 2/10/04 1:15 AM >>>

> The method or methods used to infer phylogenetic relationships is a
> taxonomic rather than a nomenclatural issue; therefore, it is outside of
the
> jurisdiction of the PhyloCode.  Consequently, systematists are free to
use
> whatever methods they like (even UPGMA!) to infer phylogenetic
> relationships; however, some methods (such as UPGMA) will make it more
> difficult for them to satisfy other requirements of phylogenetic
nomenclatue
> (such as providing a diagnosis), and their use may affect how widely the
> conclusions are accepted by other researchers.
>

THAT'S JUST WHAT SAID AT THE VARY BEGINNING OF CURRENT DISCUSSIAN:
APPLYING
PHYLOCODE WITH ITS STRICT DIFINITION OF OBJECTS TO BE NAMED VALIDLY SEEMS
TO
LEAD TO GREAT INSTABILITY OF NOMENCLATURE.

> Kevin
>
>
> Kevin de Queiroz
> Division of Amphibians & Reptiles
> Smithsonian Institution
> P.O. Box 37012
> NHB, Room W203, MRC 162
> Washington, D.C. 20013-7012
> Voice:  202-357-2212
> FAX:  202-786-2979
> E-mail:  dequeiroz.kevin@nmnh.si.edu



  

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