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Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 14:47:55 -0500 (EST)
From: "T. Mike Keesey" <tmk@dinosauricon.com>
To: -PhyloCode Mailing List- <PhyloCode@ouvaxa.cats.ohiou.edu>
Subject: Re: interesting style of definition
On Thu, 14 Feb 2002, Mieczyslaw Wolsan wrote: > There are at least three problems with this definition. First, the clade > referred to by the definition changes with the extinction of taxa; and this > is the most serious problem. Perhaps if "extant" were emended to "extant at this time". We'd still have a problem, though, if a previously unknown extant outgroup were found. "Currently known to be extant"? "Currently published and extant species"? > Second, it is not clear whether "the last common ancestor" is contained > in the clade or not (as a non-native English speaker I cannot evaluate > this properly, but I do not think that the word "stemming" specifies > this unambiguously). I think it does. PhyloCode uses that word, doesn't it? > Third, "the last common ancestor" may refer to either a species or a > population, or a breeding pair, individual organism, etc.; in each > instance, we have to do with a different clade. This might seem like > extreme pedantry, but if explicitness in phylogenetic nomenclature is > important, this should be reflected in the wording of phylogenetic > definitions. Well, PhyloCode says it's a species, right? (The article does say it's adhering to PhyloCode rules ... although, as I pointed out, this style of definitions doesn't seem to....) _____________________________________________________________________________ T. MICHAEL KEESEY The Dinosauricon <http://dinosauricon.com> BloodySteak <http://www.bloodysteak.com> personal <keesey@bigfoot.com> --> <tmk@dinosauricon.com> Dinosauricon-related <dinosaur@dinosauricon.com> AOL Instant Messenger <Ric Blayze> ICQ <77314901> Yahoo! Messenger <Mighty Odinn>