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Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 13:40:19 -0400 (EDT)
From: "T. Mike Keesey" <tmk@dinosauricon.com>
To: David Marjanovic <david.marjanovic@gmx.at>
Cc: -PhyloCode Mailing List- <PhyloCode@ouvaxa.cats.ohiou.edu>
Subject: Re: Nomina Conversa
On Thu, 12 Apr 2001, David Marjanovic wrote: > > (Okay, the first argument is the primary one here; feel free to ignore the > > other two.) Couldn't the clade be named Neosauropsida or Eureptilia or > > something, the word "reptile" left as an informal term for ectothermic > > amniotes, and the taxon "Reptilia" dropped? > > At present, *Sauropsida*, *Reptilia* and *Eureptilia* all have the same > contents (*Mesosaurus* was found to be a parareptile/anapsid in the > *Eudibamus* paper). So I suggest to use *Sauropsida* (coined by T. H. > Huxley) for the stem-based sister taxon of *Synapsida = Theropsida* and not > to define *Reptilia* and *Eureptilia* under the PhyloCode. _Sauropsida_ *is* used for the stem group, and _Reptilia_ for the crown clade. I've never heard of _Eureptilia_ before ... I thought I made it up! > > _Osteichthyes_: Why do we need the "-ichthyes" part? Why not call the > > clade Ostei and let "Osteichthyes" drop, as so many other paraphyletic > > taxa have been dropped? > > There are 2 junior synonyms, *Eu-* and *Neoteleostomi* (which are mentioned > in The Dinosauricon). These sound better IMHO. Oh yeah ... I wonder where I got those from ... I think "Ostei" would be a much better name, but if these have priority.... > > Of course, a line has to be drawn somewhere. It's my feeling that such > > converted names as _Dinosauria_, _Theropoda_, _Coelurosauria_, > > _Synapsida_, and _Therapsida_ probably are a good idea. > > I agree Although, as you mentioned, there is the alternative Theropsida for _Synapsida_, and there's also Neotheropsida (I think Bakker named it) for _Therapsida_. Tough call.... _____________________________________________________________________________ T. MICHAEL KEESEY Home Page <http://dinosauricon.com/keesey> The Dinosauricon <http://dinosauricon.com> personal <keesey@bigfoot.com> --> <tmk@dinosauricon.com> Dinosauricon-related <dinosaur@dinosauricon.com> AOL Instant Messenger <Ric Blayze> ICQ <77314901> Yahoo! Messenger <Mighty Odinn>