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Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 18:28:50 -0500 (EST)
From: "T. Mike Keesey" <tmk@dinosauricon.com>
To: -Dinosaur Mailing List- <dinosaur@usc.edu>
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Subject: Re: Megalancosaurus, Longisquama & other oddballs
On Sun, 18 Mar 2001 Dinogeorge@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 3/18/01 2:22:27 PM EST, tmk@dinosauricon.com writes: > > << It might be a good idea to revise the definition of _Dinosauromorpha_ > (currently Clade(_Dinosauria_ <-- _Pterosauria_)), too, since it would > also greatly expand if _Pterosauria_ were not included in _Archosauria_. > Clade(_Iguanodon bernissartensis_ <-- _Pterodactylus antiquus_, > _Crocodylus niloticus_) might be better. _Pterosauromorpha_ (currently > Clade(_Pterosauria_ <-- _Dinosauria)) may need revision, too, or it might > become a synonym of _Prolacertiformes_ (has this ever been defined?) > (which already might be a synonym of _Protorosauria_). >> > > This is a nice dose of the problems inherent in being too inflexible with the > definitions of higher taxa. I see it more as a problem inherent in basing definitions on the assumption that your phylogeny is the correct one, and not heeding alternative hypotheses. Definitely a wide sample of phylogenies should be considered in the making of the companion volume to PhyloCode. Firm definitions are supposed to be a main benefit of PhyloCode -- the clades exist free of our arbitrary notions of membership. But it is true that in order to make the system as backwards-compatible as possible, great care should be taken in formulating definitions. PhyloCode has many recommendations for this. While I'm at it, can anyone think of any objections to these definitions?: _Prolacertiformes_ == Clade(_Prolacerta_ <-- _Passer_, _Trilophosaurus_, _Rhynchosaurus_) _Protorosauria_ == Clade(_Protorosaurus_ <-- _Passer_, _Trilophosaurus_, _Rhynchosaurus_) _Archosauria_ == Clade(_Passer_ + _Crocodylus_) _Pseudosuchia_ == Clade(_Crocodylus_ <-- _Passer_, _Iguanodon_, _Megalosaurus_) _Avemetatarsalia_ == Clade(_Passer_ + _Iguanodon_ <-- _Crocodylus_) _Ornithodira_ == Clade(_Pterodactylus_ + _Passer_) within _Archosauria_ _Pterosauromorpha_ == Clade(_Pterodactylus_ <-- _Iguanodon_) _Dinosauromorpha_ == Clade(_Iguanodon_ <-- _Pterodactylus_, _Crocodylus_) _Dinosauriformes_ == Clade(_Marasuchus_ + _Iguanodon_ + _Megalosaurus_) _Dinosauria_ == Clade(_Iguanodon_ + _Megalosaurus_) (generic names stand for the type species of those genera; taxa listed in order of precedence) Application under various phylogenies: "the standard": |--_Rhynchosaurus_ |--_Trilophosaurus_ |--_Prolacertiformes_ (=_Protorosauria_) | |--_Protorosaurus_ | `--_Prolacerta_ `--+--_Pseudosuchia_ | `--_Crocodylus_ `--_Avemetatarsalia_ `--_Ornithodira_ |--_Pterosauromorpha_ | `--_Pterodactylus_ `--_Dinosauromorpha_ `--_Dinosauriformes |--_Marasuchus_ `--_Dinosauria_ |--_Iguanodon_ `--+--_Megalosaurus_ `--_Passer_ Dilkes: |--_Protorosauria_ | `--_Protorosaurus_ `--+--_Rhynchosaurus_ `--+--_Prolacertiformes_ | `--_Prolacerta_ `--_Archosauria_ Peters: |--_Rhynchosaurus_ `--+--_Prolacertiformes_ (=_Protorosauria_, _Pterosauromorpha_) | |--_Pterodactylus_ | `--+--_Prolacerta_ | `--_Protorosaurus_ `--_Archosauria_ Feduccia et al. (well, they've never produced a cladogram, but if they did, it might look like this -- I have no idea what they think of _Pterosauria_, BTW): _Archosauria_ |--_Rhynchosaurus_ |--_Trilophosaurus_ |--+--_Prolacertiformes_ | | `--_Prolacerta_ | |--_Protorosauria_ | | `--_Protorosaurus_ | `--_Passer_ `--+--_Pseudosuchia_ | `--_Crocodylus_ `--_Dinosauromorpha_ `--_Dinosauriformes_ |--_Marasuchus_ `--_Dinosauria_ |--_Megalosaurus_ `--_Iguanodon_ Just trying my hand.... _____________________________________________________________________________ T. MICHAEL KEESEY Home Page <http://dinosauricon.com/keesey> The Dinosauricon <http://dinosauricon.com> personal <keesey@bigfoot.com> --> <tmk@dinosauricon.com> Dinosauricon-related <dinosaur@dinosauricon.com> AOL Instant Messenger <Ric Blayze> ICQ <77314901> Yahoo! Messenger <Mighty Odinn>