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Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 16:19:16 -0600 (CST)
From: "Jonathan R. Wagner" <znc14@TTACS.TTU.EDU>
To: Kevin de Queiroz <Dequeiroz.Kevin@NMNH.SI.EDU>
Cc: gerrymoore@bbg.org, PhyloCode@ouvaxa.cats.ohiou.edu
Subject: Re: RE: apomorphy-based names
At 04:34 PM 2/7/01 -0500, Kevin de Queiroz wrote:
>Gerry Moore argued against one of the recommendations proposed by Jonathan
>Wagner. He noted that " the way Recommendation 11.8C is written it would
>suggest that _all_ names "derived from apomorphy names be given
>apomorphy-based defintions". I agree with Gerry's objection.
If this were true, so would I (I don't even *like* apomorphy-based
definitions).
I wrote:
>It is suggested that clade names derived from
>apomorphy names be given apomorphy-based definitions, although it is
>recognized that this may not always be practical.
I guess I am just not up on my "legalese." I thought this read: "you
SHOULD use an apomorphy-based definition, but you don't have to." That, of
course, being why I proposed it as a recommendation, not a rule. I suppose,
in retrospect, that the word "new" probably belongs in there somewhere
Compare the text:
Kevin De Queiroz (my caps):
> Although it may be useful to name apomorphy-based clade concepts using names
>that refer to the same apomorphies, it seems UNDESIRABLE AND IMPRACTICAL to use
>all names derived from the names of apomorphies for apomorphy-based clade
>concepts.
I wrote:
>although it is recognized that this MAY NOT ALWAYS BE PRACTICAL.
I'm sorry if I seem sharp on this. I don't wish to pick nits, but it
was truly not my intention to suggest that they all MUST have
apomorphy-based definitions, just that they "should," to satisfy the purist
in all of us.
Again, I hope this response does not offend!
Wagner
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Jonathan R. Wagner, Dept. of Geosciences, TTU, Lubbock, TX 79409-1053
"Why do I sense we've picked up another pathetic lifeform?" - Obi-Wan Kenobi