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Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 20:09:29 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Jonathan R. Wagner" <znc14@TTACS.TTU.EDU>
To: PhyloCode@ouvaxa.cats.ohiou.edu
Subject: Stem-based taxon definitions
For all, a triviality to consider: In considering my reservations regarding some of the more common phrasings of stem-based definitions, it occurred to me that perhaps it would be best to recommend (in the Code) that definitions be phrased in a common format which most closely matches the "most recent common ancestor of X and Y and all of its descendants" format whcih seems most popular for node-based taxa. I suggest the following, which is similar to some other phrasings: "The first ancestral species (or ancestor, if you please) of X which is not ancestral to Y, and all of its descendants." This avoids the problem of potential polyphyly in the traditional "X and all taxa sharing a more recent common ancestor with X than with Y" phrasing, as well as avoids the slight ambiguity I see in formulations involving the phrase "the most inclusive clade."* This definitional format makes EXPLICIT reference to an ancestor and its descendants, without relying on other terms which must be defined separately. It also points out that the "stem-based clade" is still a clade, not a half of one. (* I should note that at least one learned member of this list embrace this ambiguity... I should also note that I owe him some explanation which I have not had the time to provide... sorry Dr. Wolsan) It might be more agreeable to use "the oldest" instead of the first, although I believe that, in either case, the concept of relative time is served well enough. Wagner -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jonathan R. Wagner, Dept. of Geosciences, TTU, Lubbock, TX 79409-1053 "Why do I sense we've picked up another pathetic lifeform?" - Obi-Wan Kenobi